{"id":2648,"date":"2026-10-14T14:02:21","date_gmt":"2026-10-14T14:02:21","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.civitastalent.com\/?post_type=podcast&#038;p=2648"},"modified":"2026-10-14T14:02:21","modified_gmt":"2026-10-14T14:02:21","slug":"commercial-hr-that-actually-moves-the-numbers-with-carol-nazha-gm-people-culture-heinemann-oceania","status":"publish","type":"podcast","link":"https:\/\/www.civitastalent.com\/podcast\/commercial-hr-that-actually-moves-the-numbers-with-carol-nazha-gm-people-culture-heinemann-oceania\/","title":{"rendered":"Commercial HR That Actually Moves The Numbers with Carol Nazha, GM People &#038; Culture, Heinemann Oceania"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>HR gets called \u201cstrategic\u201d a lot, but what happens when your business is so volatile that one external event can wipe out passenger numbers, cut sales, and force immediate cost decisions? We\u2019re joined by Carol Nassa, GM People and Culture at Heinemann Oceania, to talk about commercial acumen in HR through the lens of travel retail, where workforce planning and the P&amp;L are inseparable.<\/p>\n<p>We dig into the real levers: how passenger flows translate to customer traffic, how sales shifts pressure labour costs, and why \u201cright people, right place, right time, right cost\u201d is more than a catchphrase. Carol shares how she reframed classic HR metrics like engagement, turnover and absenteeism by asking a tougher question: does this move business outcomes? We also talk about building credibility with senior leaders by learning the language of Finance, forecasting properly, and optimising the framework you already have through agility and cross-training, not defaulting straight to restructures.<\/p>\n<p>Leadership gets a hard look too. Post-COVID, many teams lost the rhythm of feedback and on-the-job development, so we unpack the difference between training and coaching, and why coaching demands patience in fast-paced retail. We finish with a grounded take on AI in retail: human connection still matters on the shop floor, while AI can transform logistics, supply chain and reporting, and lift capability expectations for every role.<\/p>\n<p>If you found this useful, follow or subscribe to the HR Community Podcast, share it with a people leader who needs a commercial lens, and leave a review with your biggest workforce planning challenge.<\/p>\n<p><strong>Get in touch with Civitas Talent!<\/strong><br \/>\n<a href=\"https:\/\/www.civitastalent.com\/\">https:\/\/www.civitastalent.com\/<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>HR gets called \u201cstrategic\u201d a lot, but what happens when your business is so volatile that one external event can wipe out passenger numbers, cut sales, and force immediate cost decisions? We\u2019re joined by Carol Nassa, GM People and Culture at Heinemann Oceania, to talk about commercial acumen in HR through the lens of travel&hellip;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"featured_media":2650,"template":"","podcast_category":[20],"class_list":["post-2648","podcast","type-podcast","status-publish","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","podcast_category-the-hr-community-podcast"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.civitastalent.com\/af-api\/wp\/v2\/podcasts\/podcast\/2648","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.civitastalent.com\/af-api\/wp\/v2\/podcasts\/podcast"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.civitastalent.com\/af-api\/wp\/v2\/types\/podcast"}],"wp:featuredmedia":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.civitastalent.com\/af-api\/wp\/v2\/media\/2650"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.civitastalent.com\/af-api\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=2648"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"podcast_category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.civitastalent.com\/af-api\/wp\/v2\/podcast_category?post=2648"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}